Click here to view the Piper PA-31T Cheyenne features guide. When you think about it, how can I justify taking the chance of just overhauling our own engines? 1. Compared to the I, these engine improvements gave the IA up to 12 more knots at the IAs service ceiling of 29,000 feet and about 6 knots at maximum cruise power and 12,000 feet. There is one accident that occurred to a PA-31T under similar circumstances to the two that called the SAS into question: loss of control during an instrument departure in fog. 0000010782 00000 n This engine has a reverse flow, free turbine arrangement. Loading All three models have large capacity nose baggage compartments (a maximum of 20 cubic feet with a 300 pound load limit, depending upon the model and the type of avionics installed) and another bay in the aft fuselage. A properly trained pilot will find it to be a very satisfactory airplane, except for the combustion heater problem. Problem with instalation. Design work began in 1965 (the PA-31P pressurized Navajo was in development at the same time). They arent. My boss did the same: I wanted the King Air, but it was too costly then. It still does. power setting above this will start sliding the tyres. The airplane is approved for day and night VFR/IFR operations when equipped in accordance with F.A.R. However, this doesnt mean it is simple. Pipers Cheyenne 400LS is one of those rare airplanes that has few compromises. 0000006052 00000 n surprised by the heavy controls. But, what exactly was wrong with the original airplane? 0000000016 00000 n One hundred seventy-seven flight hours from now, the engines on our 1980 Piper Cheyenne will reach TBO. I have never flown an aircraft that requires so much yoke movement to hand-fly above FL 230. This is better than the Extra 300s 6.3 pounds/horsepower and the 7.3 pounds/horsepower of the spirited Beechcraft King Air F90. In the case of the Meridian and the TBM, the airplanes are still in production, an important consideration when it comes to parts. Dubbed the T-1040, it was developed as part of Pipers air taxi/commuter marketing effort and certified in 1982. From 1973 to 1974 America faced an oil crisis, driving fuel prices through the roof. 0000013091 00000 n turned on and the starter button is pressed. Cabin seating is commonly arranged in a four-seat club with three additional seats available. g,!NA4 The 400LS provides its owner with jet-like climb and cruise performance, along with turboprop efficiency and the ability to use numerous smaller airports that the jets cant. The airframes are rugged. The early Cheyennes were later refined with some aerodynamic improvements, but the PT6-28s produced only 10 to 15 percent faster cruise speed than their piston siblings and at a much higher fuel consumption. It pays to experiment (but dont judge the affects just by the pilots reaction. The resulting aircraft included the Cheyenne I (500 SHP engine to eliminate the troublesome stick shaker), Cheyenne II (620 SHP PT6s and a stick shaker), Cheyenne IIXL (750 SHP PT6s de-rated to 620 SHP and 18-inch longer fuselage), and Cheyenne III and IIIA (720 SHP PT6A-41s and -61s, nine seats and a T-tail). In the 400LS, they are flat rated to 1,000 shaft horsepower per side, and can make that power all the way up to about FL200depending on temperature. Of the original 44 aircraft, just over 20 are believed to be flying in the United States today. Production was halted after just one year of production. 0000011922 00000 n They can be awful tempting given the low purchase price, but they are priced that low for a reason. The first production Cheyenne III flew for the first time on May 18, 1979, and FAA certification was granted in early 1980. They can significantly reduce the cost of a hot section inspection or overhaul by reducing the effects of wear and tear on very expensive engine components. In that later issue, Kelly discusses a further change to the system Piper made with the 1980 model year: the addition of a bobweight to dampen long-period longitudinal oscillation tendencies. Control authority is insufficient for a strong crosswind landing, so we learned to use differential power very early in our training on the Cheyenne. 0000042281 00000 n As a result, the aircraft can travel more than 2,000 nm in a long-range cruise. Today, the 400LS averages a purchase price under $1 million, with total fixed and variable hourly operating expenses of $1,500. 0000147953 00000 n The Cheyenne II came equipped with a total of eight seats, and in my opinion it should not have been equipped with the eighth-the rearmost seat. For an aging airplane, the Cheyennes have remarkably few major maintenance problems or airworthiness directives. 0000013910 00000 n Required fields are marked *. As per the fifth paragraph in this article, 351 KTS at 25,000 feet (or 290 KTS at 41,000 feet) on 60 gallons of Jet A/hour, and a range of 1,800-plus nm with IFR reserve. And yes, when Pratt & Whitney (now Pratt & Whitney Canada), manufacturer of the PT-6 went on strike during Beechcrafts production of the A-100 King Air, Beech made the necessary modifications to the airframe to accommodate the Garret Engine, calling it the B-100. There is enough to manage in a Cheyenne even in good weather that it definitely is in the category of a check list airplane. It uses less runway, climbs and cruises faster than many pure jets. But good looks, affordability, and ease of maintenance are just as important. It is an aeroplane that does everything well. high level of residual thrust, even at flight idle as the aeroplane was had the aircraft off the runway and heading up at an amazing rate of climb. It takes just a few minutes to climb to the flight levels and the speed/economy gains at those altitudes make it worthwhile. N7222F often pleasantly surprises ATC with its initial 4,000 fpm climb rate when asked for an expedited climb. Flying may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. These airplanes are fast, efficient and beautiful. Its ironic because, of all the maintenance issues, repairs and glitches that weve had in 10 years of Cheyenne ownership, the engines are about the only bits that havent required unscheduled interventions. There are two major branches to the design family. The dominating features are the pair of broad Dowty The Cheyenne is no slouch in the cruise department, either. The average Janitrol event costs about $2,000, which includes a deep-cycle charging of the ni-cad batteries. Who are you using for service, and are you having trouble getting parts? Generally speaking, operators of the original version should make a dedicated commitment to good initial and recurrent training, rigorous pre-purchase inspection and evaluation and make sure they find a very qualified maintenance technician and shop. They put it into a lot of strips that couldnt accommodate other turboprops and a large number of piston twins. 0000022086 00000 n This causes an unnaturally sharp pitchover and rapid speed buildup. Magginetti mentions cabin heaters, torque indicating systems and the PA-31Ts SAS as systems that require higher than average attention. This trait can be traced to the Cheyennes roots in the Navajo airframe. At all phases of flight, the cabin noise was less than I remember it being What are they going for these days? The 17-foot high tail also makes finding a T-hangar at most GA airports a challenge. For ninety-five percent of the time the 10 Comments. This is more a nuisance than a problem. The other three Cheyenne models, the III, IIIA, and 400LS, dont really fit into the entry-level category. And the TBM? A review of briefs of the 56 accident and incident reports a typical five-year period include eight fatal accidents, two of which were in commercial T-1040s. Deliveries began in early 1974 - a long time Get extra lift from AOPA. hbbbd`b``3 0@ Y The instructors will put the pilot through aft-loading drills in the simulator, as well as many other things that are life-savers. The lower maximum power of the I together with a narrower cg range, climb power limits and the forward bias of loading equations in the IIXL because of the stretch forward of the leading edge as well as an aft cg limit that is also two inches forward of the limit in the original Cheyenne make longitudinal stability and pitch performance satisfactory without artificial aids. A friend and I seriously considered a Cheyenne a couple of years ago and I still think a Merlin would be a decent choice for what were doing. The extra power had a destabilizing effect, and the lower weight led to aft-cg problems. It carries more and further and does it all for about half the cost of a comparable bizjet. Upon arrival at our home airport (KJYO), it was love at first sight. On the other hand, one engine burns less gas, has only one prop, etc. The fuselageis limited to a 15,000-hour life, while the wing and empennage have 20,000-hour life limits. Mike and Bill are known advisors, and they arent selling me anything, so I feel at home with their advice. The Cheyenne IIXL, manufactured from 1981 to 1984, is basically a Cheyenne II with a 2-foot stretch all of it forward of the main spar. 820 degrees C and it is necessary to have fingers poised over the fuel Thomas A. Horne, AOPA Pilot, June 1993. There were some cabin changes but that was about it. PA-42 may also refer to, "Piper Cheyenne 400LS: Big Dog Turboprop Could Best A Citation I", "Piper Cheyenne 400LS Record Set by Chuck Yeager", "Quick Look: Piper Cheyenne 400LS, Rare hot rod performs more like a jet", "Chuck Yeager - Chasing the Demons for 72 Years", "Piper PA-42 Type Certificate data sheet No. Powerplant | (2) 1,000-shp Honeywell TPE-331-14, Takeoff distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,325 ft, Landing distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,317 ft. Get extra lift from AOPA. I currently own a Commander 690 with dash 10 engines, gets me a high cruise of about 290-300 Kts depending on outside temperatures so a nice second place! general aviation may be immeasurably poorer. These are the PA-31T series, or Cheyenne/II, Cheyenne I/IA and Cheyenne IIXL (plus an unpressurized hybrid developed for the air taxi and commuter markets, the PA-31T3 or T-1040) and the PA-42 series, which consists of the T-tailed and longer-fuselage Cheyenne III/IIIA and Cheyenne IV/400LS. To me theyre a lot. trailer 0000007680 00000 n We have had a couple of engine problems, but discussions with our maintenance base, Des Moines Flying Center, have convinced us that all is well. endstream endobj 268 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/Index[6 175]/Length 29/Size 181/Type/XRef/W[1 1 1]>>stream Indeed, the 1980 Cheyenne, which was Piper Cheyenne Series Aircraft Information Built by Piper Aircraft, the Piper Cheyenne is a turboprop powered aircraft. Pilot comfort, however, is less than satisfactory because it is cramped and the yoke constantly gets in the way of the pilots knees. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. For operators of the PA-31T, pitch instability should not be a concern if the airplane pitch system is modified to the latest specification (including the bobweight), the SAS is maintained properly, weight and balance limitations are observed and current limiting power settings and airspeeds are complied with. Performance data for Merlin III series online is lacking. The aircraft I have also been looking at the commander 1000/900. the PA-42 - essentially a turboprop-powered Navajo. The power is reduced if leveling off below 25,000 feet to avoid over-speeding, as well as during descent and landing. FSX PA-42 Piper Cheyenne 400LS The PA-42-1000 Piper Cheyenne 400LS is a high performance pressurised turboprop corporate aircraft seating up to nine passengers & is powered by two 1000shp AiResearch (Garrett) TPE-331-14A engines normally driving four-bladed Dowty rotol propellers, this model features improved performance five blade constant speed composite MT-propellers increasing max speed to . 0000261462 00000 n These trips can often be made nonstop in our Cheyenne, but a Meridian would require a stop for almost all of them. Some Meridians go for as little as $900,000, and they are 20 years newer than the 1980s models of Cheyennes out there. %PDF-1.2 % The -31T1 was in production from 1978 to 1984; 215 I and IAs were built. Guess what? At any speed less than 130 knots, the aircraft starts to oscillate. Chevenne 400 Ls with 5 blade perpillers has 1000 h.p engines too. One famous such move was to call in Ed These other airplanes come in two varieties: another Cheyenne for which another owner has taken the leap and done the engines and now has to sell; or a different airplane such as a single-engine turboprop. This was one of several attempts to overcome the poor image of Piper engineering and manufacture. There is no major pattern. However, like the archetypal nerd in an action movie, 0000094577 00000 n The chevenne 400 Ls turboprop Air Craft top speed 350 knots with 4 blade perpller . 0000013382 00000 n This vane on the earlier models tended to freeze up and sound a warning, which caused some pilots to try to disable the system. The start sequence is fully automated. 0000012150 00000 n Apart from the inevitable abrasion The majority of the flights were flown above most airliners in comfort, style and at a fuel cost less than economy class tickets for the same itinerary. Copy & paste the "PA-42 Piper Cheyenne 400LS" folder into your Airplanes folder located by default as below: OS (C)/Program Files(x86)/Microsoft Games/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/SimObjects/Airplanes . Three old outdated airframes that are very expensive to operate and maintain. xref If a person wanted to do that in a Cheyenne II, he could simply self-limit the -28 engines to the 500-HP output of the -11. comes in. Other records later set by the 400LS, again piloted by Yeager in 400LS N4118Y (later reregistered as N46HL) for the C-1e Group 2 class, were: Miami-to-Boston, Miami-to-New York City, San Francisco-to-Charleston, West Virginia, San Francisco-to-Cincinnati, San Francisco-to-Los Angeles, New York City-to-Paris, Washington, DC-to-Paris and Gander-Paris. It uses less runway, climbs and cruises faster than many pure jets. I flew the 400LS for a spell. PAPI Price Estimate Model Year (as of June 1, 2022): $1,308,533 Performance specifications Horsepower: 2 x 1,000 HP Best Cruise Speed: 334 KIAS Best Range (i): 1,879 NM Fuel Burn: 99.7 GPH Rate of climb: 3,242 FPM Rate of climb (1 engine out): 997 FPM Ceiling: 41,000 FT less runway, climbs and cruises faster than many pure jets. A true performer (Single Pilot) that resembles Jet Performace for half of the fuel burn and operational cost. of the manual under: 'Tips for operators'. I know this airplane. Indeed, the 1980 Cheyenne, which was 181 0 obj <> endobj That, together with the obvious success of the Beech King Air and the troublesome big Lycomings on the P-Navajo, undoubtedly was a factor in the decision to develop a pressurized turboprop. Up front, most remaining 400LS models have been updated with some level of glass avionics. The plane is easy to load through its large rear and nose baggage doors, allowing a wide range for CG. The continual struggles to remain afloat at Piper can be attributed to 269 0 obj <>stream At high angles of attack, the vane causes the spring to pull the controls forward, thus providing artificial static stability. of limits parameters as well as taking vital signs every time you push the https://www.trade-a-plane.com/searc&model=24E&listing_id=2394659&s-type=aircraft, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. This listing was posted on Jul 15, 2019. A fleet of this size does not provide the manufacturer and maintenance shops enough incentives to produce parts and specialized maintenance support. (It should be noted that the Cheyenne III, which is an entirely different airplane, does not share these troubles.). There is a lot to the proper care of the rest of the airplane, too. This model, designated the PA-31T-620, was manufactured from 1974 to 1977. The numbers The PA-31T was produced from 1974 to 1983. of propeller clearance. The King Air models did not win the speed race but won big on their luxurious interiors and ramp presence. Significant improvements were made throughout the product line in terms of maintainability, rational human factors-oriented redesign and in overall quality. They have trouble getting repair parts to keep those planes flying too. Pressurization was increased to 7.6psi (0.52bar) to elevate its ceiling from 35,000 to 41,000ft (10,700 to 12,500m) while maintaining a 10,000ft (3,000m) cabin. Find N47ZG 1986 PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS on Aircraft.com. Back in The airplane is fast and dependable and has a somewhat undeserved bad reputation arising out of its short-coupled fuselage and somewhat poor stability. 0000173169 00000 n In October of 2019, with four occupants, we traveled through Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Italy and back to Leesburg. 0000011808 00000 n Wing span (metric) 14.50 m. Length (metric) 13.20 m. Height (metric) 5.20 m. Powerplant. Major design revisions were made, and in October 1969 the prototype PA-31T-essentially a PA-31P with turboshaft engines-flew. N3Rp '{A. rw:sr]m]6Afu {tih8d0yc13gix,H/SH\&5`X)#oGt|G&o4HqxZdA'{r nQfo4[gt)S0p1&_vyv|Wy\WZ7m e,Yp,;Fc_Mf]F>o|nGivVc'/5oW#TRx=* (Note that the longitudinal stability problem is at its worst at aft loadings, and if the range is exceeded all bets are, of course, off.). Feature, October 2020 Issue long wheel base Land Rover). In 1975, he acknowledged many shortcomings and promised major improvements would take place in quality control and customer support. My smugness about predicting economic developments has suffered some indignities lately, so guessing about the residual value of a 40-year-old $600,000 Cheyenne versus a 20-year-old $900,000 Meridian 10 years from now is an estimation for which I am neither qualified nor temperamentally suited. This information comes to you, they say, once your engine is in pieces on the shop floor. It takes about four inches of yoke travel to keep the plane level at FL 270. This thread reminds me of the day that I decided to buy a Huey. The airplane has two imposing TPE331-14 engines, each capable of producing 1,600+ SHP de-rated to 1,000 HP at its five-bladed MT propellers. also included. He writes about his enthusiasm for both the machines and the people who fly and maintain them. executive turbine fraternity. 0000008972 00000 n Thats a recipe for a bad accident rate. With the optional tip tanks installed, the fuel capacity is increased to 390 U.S. gallons. These are redlines at This is because there are more systems, including the SAS. [3], The aircraft's top speed is 351kn (650km/h; 404mph) and was faster than the Citation I on most trips while burning one-third less fuel. The cheapest B models seem to hover around $1.4 million. The comments in the accident brief note that the regular pilot refused the trip because of the weather. This is the only COMPLETE (RVSM,FULL PAID MSP) AVAILABLE! For a pilot with no turbine experience, the I or IA would be the best choice because it is the least demanding to operate. It successfully smashed all the records in its class and set overall records to 6,000 and 12,000 meters. 181 89 Two 30 volt, 200 ampere, D.C. starter/generators in parallel provide torque for engine starting and generate D.C. electrical power. After completing the CAPTCHA below, you will immediately regain access to the site again. The Cheyenne 400LS is a very stable IFR platform with the control inputs on the firm side. In 1980 the windshield area was increased by 20 percent for both the I and II. 0000004128 00000 n 0000012075 00000 n Torque limiters protect the engines from injudicious applications of power Full flap speed is 148. Wing-tip fuel tanks were standard with this airplane, and so were redesigned engine air intakes and elongated exhaust stacks. In service since 1984. Of course, you need bigger props too. Start your free trial today! after the King Air was launched. My retirement account is a shadow of its former self. 2023 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, Max Operating Speed see POH for speeds above listed altitudes. The original version of the SAS addressed this problem, but the bugaboo of dynamic stability remained. company limited itself to producing conservative if not down right Empty weight is 6837 lb (3101 kg) and maximum takeoff weight is 11,200 lb (5080 kg). As a result, the passengers either froze or cooked, and there never seemed to be a good fix for that. Registration #: N142LS. Theres no question that the Meridian is a lot smaller than our Cheyenne. Most type-specific ADs apply to the original Cheyenne with the I/IA, not surprisingly, running second. 0000052368 00000 n Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS condition is Used PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS Total Flight Time PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS total flight time is 6,465 PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS Total Engine Time PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS total engine time is P51041 PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS Category PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS category is Turboprop Aircraft PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS PIPER CHEYENNE 400LS Pics The Cheyenne became the Cheyenne II. Speed and range, of course. The record shows that, when it comes to safely stepping up to turboprops, there is simply no substitute for a regimen of structured recurrent training.
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