Detailed performance figures are summarized in the table at the articles end. Dakota is said to produce 10% more energy than the .338 Magnum. 0000057837 00000 n In contrast, the .300 PRC is engineered with the latest cutting-edge cartridge design principles, and features a 1.12-inch head height, enabling the use of very long, low-drag projectiles without intruding inside the case. It has the case capacity to launch the heaviest .338 caliber bullets (300 grain) at useful velocities and is a stellar long-range cartridge for large game. 0000086034 00000 n Compared: .338 Winchester Magnum, .338-06 A-Square and .338 Ruger Compact Magnum, 8.8% increase in powder to get 2.8% increase in MV in the .330 Dakota, 21.5% increase in powder to get 6.5% increase in MV in the .340 Weatherby, 27.3% increase in powder to get 6.5% increase in MV in the .338 RUM, 35.0% increase in powder to get 7.4% increase in MV in the .338 Lapua, 51.6% increase in powder to get 10.9% increase in MV in the .338-378 Weatherby, 14.1% more efficient than the .340 Weatherby, 37.4% more efficient than the .338-378 Weatherby. Muzzle breaks are a cheat; they produce excessive back blast and flash which both deafens and blinds (in low light) a shooter. 250 gr. 0000042439 00000 n AccuBond (.720 BC/.375 SD) at 2650 fps. In many ways, it does what the .300 PRC does, and does it even better. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. All groups are 3 shots at 100 yards, and all bullets were molly coated except the Winchester Fail safes which were coated from the factory. 0000011972 00000 n Nosler's case will maintain that 250-275 fps gain over the Winchester case, in spite of sharing the same length. The successive increases in power are in the order I listed the cartridges above, except that the .340 Weatherby and .338 Remington Ultra Mag (RUM) are ballistic (but not interchangeable) twins. 57 0 obj <> endobj xref 57 68 0000000016 00000 n 0000039208 00000 n Second, it too has a short head height, making it incompatible with very long high-BC projectiles. 0000045131 00000 n A .375 Ruger necked down to .30 caliber, and specd with a very long throat so long, sleek bullets dont have to be seated with their bases deeply protruding into powder capacity, the .300 PRC requires a long, true-magnum-length magazine box of 3.70 inches. These genuine magnum Mausers are indeed expensive and not available off the shelf in most gun stores. -EInR'/:PH,UtC 0000006742 00000 n 0000003981 00000 n Buying a rifle chambered for any of the other four super magnums is going to put a real strain on the debit card. The first U.S. commercially available .338-caliber rifle was the .33 Winchester introduced in the Model 1886 lever-action rifle around 1902. The Dakotas must be built in an action having a bolt face large enough to accommodate the larger 404 Jeffrey rim width of .545". 0000004677 00000 n They also played a vital role in introducing .338-caliber cartridges to shooters and hunters around the world and filled the obvious performance gap between the .30- and .375-caliber magnum cartridges. 0000013079 00000 n However, a true magnum Mauser action will accept the longest magnums, such as the .416 Rigby which is 3.75 inches long. Many other companies have introduced .338-caliber cartridges with industry standardized examples including the .338 Remington Ultra Mag, .338 Norma Magnum, .338 Marlin Express, .338 Ruger Compact Magnum, .338-378 Weatherby Magnum, .338 Lapua, .338 Federal, .338-06 A-Square (very similar to the .333 O.K.H. 0000048187 00000 n h'@ } endstream endobj 70 0 obj <>>> endobj 71 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/Shading<>>>/Rotate 0/Thumb 60 0 R/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 432.0 648.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 72 0 obj <> endobj 73 0 obj <> endobj 74 0 obj <>stream I was using the 250 Nosler Partition back then. A hunter must really want to shoot an elk at 800 yards to consider anything above the .338 Win. For example, 72.4 grain of IMR 4350 powder will drive a 200 grain bullet at 3000 f.p.s. These cartridges are also best when paired with the heaviest bullet weights. 0000039110 00000 n The MPBR (+/- 3") of that load is 282 yards. Designed specifically for ELR (extra long range) use, the .300 PRC is optimized for shooting way, way out there. 0000025931 00000 n 0000050694 00000 n (.338-378). SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380. The PowerRank is an estimation of the cartridge power. To date, Ive effectively shot the .300 PRC from 40 yards, at which I walloped a giant of a free-range Nyala while hunting with Crusader Safaris, out to 1844 yards, at which distance I peppered a 1 by 1.5 MOA rock with gratifying regularity. The following data was developed in a Dakota 76 rifle straight from the factory. Joined Jan 17, 2021 Messages 1,667 Location North Carolina. Thinking of a 33 Nosler, Proof carbon sendaro barrel w/brake and HS precision stock. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. They are also expensive to buy and shoot. What we need to know without fluff mucking up the targets. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The more powder burned equals more recoil and muzzle blast principle applies to all the super magnums, of course. Mag. .330 Dakota (Using 225 GR Nosler Bullets) Warning! 0000044966 00000 n With premium hunting bullets, they will completely penetrate a large Alaskan brown bear, moose and other large game, including Cape buffalo (where legal and as demonstrated by my old friend, the late Bill Jordan). Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. 0000039348 00000 n BC quantifies a bullets aerodynamic efficiency, and SD predicts relative ability to penetrate into a game animal; the larger each number, the better. His third shot struck in the vitals, and within a few feet the moose stumbled and went down for good. Mag. The bolt body is generously vented to arrest and direct gases away from the shooter in the unlikely event of a ruptured case, while the bolt sleeve cap offers additional protection. ): The only practical reason for designing a cartridge to drive a given weight bullet faster is to enhance the downrange performance of the bullet. 0000011103 00000 n These Hornady loads used Dakota cases and Federal 215 primers and were chronographed in the 25" barrel of a Dakota 76 rifle. 0000083186 00000 n (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); .330 Dakota-Dakota Fail-Safe, .330 Dakota-Dakota Nosler Ballistic Tip, .330 Dakota-Dakota Swift A-Frame, .330 Dakota-Dakota Nosler Partition, .330 Dakota-Dakota Swift A-Frame, .330 Dakota-Dakota Nosler Partition. The .33 will be introduced with a long-range load that contains the Nosler 265-grain AccuBond LR bullet pushed 2,775 fps, but that load was unavailable at press time. This was done primarily to correspond with the bullet ogive profile, obtain proper neck length and keep the overall cartridge length within 3.340 inches. 0000086915 00000 n They also deliver terminal performance that is not much different than the .375 H&H Magnum, while offering a flatter trajectory and are generally chambered in lighter, handier rifles. The Nosler and the PRC or Sherman version with a 3.850 mag box has brass available also from ADG for a bit less speed. Mag. rifle, the recoil energy of the 200 grain load mentioned above calculates to 30.9 ft. velocities, and they had a much lower ballistic coefficient than desired. 0000081470 00000 n Magnum's ballistics. in the .338 Win. They work on grizzlies at close range but can reach out to put down a wounded moose at long range.. It hits the shooter the least, has proven itself in both Alaska and Africa for decades, and ammunition is available most places. Mag. 0000011787 00000 n 0000048643 00000 n 0000086619 00000 n 0000048616 00000 n Dividing the numbers just listed for each other cartridge into that for the .338 Win. Bullet selection for the .338 magnums presents some challenges. Hey guys, new to this forum. 0000048455 00000 n I like a 338 "anything" - they kill from any angle. with the 225 grain bullet. This four-shot group was fired at 100 yards, with the upper bullet being pulled by the shooter. faster than will the .338 Win. All groups are 3 shots at 100 yards, and all bullets were molly coated except the Winchester Fail safes which were coated from the factory. ), .330 Dakota and others. . Recently, I developed a 225 grain load with the Northfork bullet, which chronographs 3050 fps. Averaged across the four bullet weights, these are: To me, the best simple calculation that indicates the relative ballistic efficiency of a given cartridge and load is muzzle velocity divided by powder charge (MV per grain of powder). and that is a place I do not wish to visit often. 0000054289 00000 n 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Free Shipping On All Orders! 0000041868 00000 n Its past that where it becomes significant. A maximum charge of 79.7 grains of the same powder gives a MV of 2900 fps and a ME of 4201 ft. lbs. 0000086353 00000 n Although its certainly the second-most-popular .30-caliber magnum, this short fatty has two distinct disadvantages when compared to the .300 PRC. 0000039647 00000 n Its got a fair amount of case taper. commercial market. It scored just behind the .340 Weatherby and has the least recoil among the cartridges tested. It is available with a one-turn Zero Stop or a two-turn without the Zero Stop. Remington .338 RUM factory ammo starts at about $4 per cartridge. It hurts a bit to write this particular comparison, because Im really partial to the .300 WBY. 0000008280 00000 n px}P~fUC3zM)bg&J3{5)(24`N[j3irWY\VLSlSkek2>K,B5MUZsH)YqLOO,)=@h(MAGP:d h, GO.= @9hj$T#@@"a#$6PCP&,29pKRB7~7kb9oyxfKeE a endstream endobj 75 0 obj [106 0 R] endobj 76 0 obj <> endobj 77 0 obj <> endobj 78 0 obj [/ICCBased 98 0 R] endobj 79 0 obj <> endobj 80 0 obj <> endobj 81 0 obj <> endobj 82 0 obj <>stream Why not just shoot a slightly slower cartridge that pushes heavy, sleek bullets optimized for long range, and which provides less recoil and more performance way out there? Expanded Nosler AccuBond recovered from test media. 0000084648 00000 n It pushed a 200- grain bullet around 2,200 fps. The casing is | In the past, one had to order them from gun makers such as Rigby or Dakota Arms, but now CZ offers them on a production basis, although the CZ magnum is still a bit more expensive than their standard-length actions. Before you all jump all over this with too much gun and bullet etc and suggestions, all I am asking is about the performance of this bullet. 0000042164 00000 n Finally, its throat is reamed very deeply, which allows bullets to get a running jump at the rifling leade and prevents pressure spikes with aggressive loads, but can be detrimental to precise accuracy. Weatherby has developed several rounds by necking down their awe-inspiring .378; the .300-378 and .338-378. Today, I have to give that nod to the .300 PRC. 0000001656 00000 n (According to Remington estimates, figure about 30 fps velocity gain for each inch of barrel longer than the industry standard of 24 inches. to 3384 ft. lbs. Return to Shop SKU: 33-0003R Category: .33 Caliber Related products .33 Nosler $ 6.00 ea. Nosler currently offers three grades of factory loads for it: Match Grade (a 300-grain bullet at 2,550 fps), Trophy Grade (a 225-grain AccuBond at 3,025 fps), and a Trophy Grade Long Range (a 265-grain AccuBond at 2,775 fps). The 33 Nosler is SAAMI approved and will be supported with ammunition and components from Nosler beginning Q1 of 2017. HORNADY BRASS 26 NOSLER UNPRIMED 20/BX . Like the .338 Lapua, it is a great candidate for the 300-grain long-range bullets now on the market. Some cartridges were handicapped by the fact the major ammunition companies dont offer the heaviest bullet weights, rather they offer the most popular or common. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. The ballistic performances based off two .330 Dakota rounds for velocity are 3,200 Nosler cartridges include (left to right): .26, .28, .30 and .33. The newest .338 magnum, the 33 Nosler arrived on the market in 2016. 69 0 obj <> endobj xref 69 68 0000000016 00000 n (.338 RUM), 32.2 f.p.s. 0000051612 00000 n If you can source enough brass for the Dakota before you build it great of not I'd look at the Edge really hard! 0000004855 00000 n Its too much cartridge to fit inside most standard-size magnum bolt guns, and even if shoehorned in, you can only squeeze a couple of cartridges into the magazine. 0000004014 00000 n By any standard, the .33 Nosler is an impressive hunting cartridge. The .330 designation refers to the bore diameter; the cartridge uses standard .338" diameter bullets. Mag. 0000041635 00000 n The rifle weighed 7 pounds without a scope. 0000081710 00000 n We show you how. .330 Dakota Ballistics Ballistics and Drop for the .330 Dakota Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.74" Width: 0.545" Average FPS: 2925 Average Energy: 4369 Average Gr: 230 Recoil: 3.11 Power Rank: 6.73 of 20 The .330 Dakota is in the proprietary cartridge class and was designed by Don Allen. In fact, because its got a shorter throat that engages light-ish, short-shanked projectiles faster, the 30 Nosler actually may provide more consistent accuracy with popular deer-weight bullets. 0000083459 00000 n Heres how each cartridge ranked. lbs.) wildcats gained some popularity; however, British .333-inch bullets were not always readily available in the U.S., which limited their acceptance among shooters and hunters. JavaScript is disabled. Just wondering if any body out there has experience with these big heavy bullets on deer size game. The crosshairs are illuminated for low-light shooting, while the click finger adjustments are 14 MOA. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. for the .338-378 Weatherby. It was stocked in a great looking dark wooden stock, and sported a 24-inch barrel. (Most factory ammo for the .338 WM sells for $2 to $3 per round, with a wide choice of brands and bullet weights available.). Despite their Thors Hammer performance, .338 magnums are not as popular as their .30 caliber cousins for one big reason: recoil. Mag., or is likely to do so in the future. It comes close to .338 RUM performance but fits into standard (.30-06) length rifle actions. 0000003979 00000 n Where this cartridge goes wrong is in the size of the case. Do know these new bullets are a lot better. Worse, barrel life is short. 0000054576 00000 n As to the muzzle break comment, I have yet to see a rifle around here with a muzzle break. 330 DAKOTA We used Dakota 330 brass and the Federal 215 primers throughout all our tests. proved good enough for old Elmer Keith, its good enough for me. All things considered, the .300 PRC is a much more polite, civilized cartridge that is durned near as capable and offers far greater efficiency. ft/s (210 gr) and 2,950 ft/s (250 gr). I am not a fan of these cartridges, because they provide a poor benefit to cost ratio. Red Oak, White, or Chestnut for Deer Herd? 300 gr. eO_wk^./Jbkb9/LEx.v4;VjUkSM~TOeIV3 All Rights Reserved. 225 gr. The author analyzed six .338 caliber magnum cartridges (.338 Winchester Magnum, .340 Weatherby, .338-378 Weatherby, .338 Remington Ultra Mag., 33 Nosler, and .338 Lapua) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. and this pattern of incremental velocity increases continues with each cartridge in the sequence. Great article. ELR guys like to shoot, so poor barrel life is a significant problem. Ballistically, the price of getting the performance gains summarized above is that the energy (i.e. While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. When it comes to hunting inside 400 yards, the Hornady .300 PRC cartridge does nothing more and nothing less than the passel of already existing .30-caliber magnums. The rifle bargain here is the .338 Remington Ultra Mag. However, its a bit too much of a good thing. Either a long-range bullet fired up close, or a close-range one used too far away can cause ineffective wounds and result in lost game. Dakota speaks of its 300 Dakota as its "most popular" on the basis of capacity, bullet availability, and accuracy. (The hottest reloading data I can find anywhere, including from Dakota, claims 2878 fps and 4595 ft. lbs. The trend has been that the more potent versions are those gaining in popularity. I will be building one for my self for elk this year, the 215 berger has an exceptional reputation on elk and I would guess you could run them well over 3100 using a stable powder like H1000. I used that bullet in a 338/375 Ruger which is nearly identical to a 330 Dakota ballistically. W. wasskeet Well-Known Member. AccuBond (.550 BC/.281 SD) at 3025 fps. for a 185 grain bullet in the .338 Win. Answer: Yes, if your loads used the same bullets at the same velocity as those in the article. 0000003535 00000 n 0000051517 00000 n As a matter of mirror-image fact, the two cases are extremely similar. Although I love it, in pure technical terms Im forced to admit the .300 Win. Conversely, the .338 super magnums are far from perfect. .375 H&H Magnum (L), .338 Winchester Magnum (R). .33 Winchester $ 5.50 ea. Data for the .338 Win. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. Several four-shot groups were fired. The .338 Winchester Magnum, introduced in 1958, set a performance level for the caliber that most subsequent .338 cartridges have struggled to exceed. Mag. Dakota off ers factory loads with 150 and 180 grain bullets, attaining muzzle velocities of 3300 fps and 3100 fps, respectively. Answer: In a way, they are. But do you know how to properly use them? gets 40.4 f.p.s. Copyright 2015 by Gary Zinn and/or chuckhawks.com. Turning to retained energy at or near to MPBR, I used the ballistics calculator at www.hornady.com to calculate energy at the 25 yard increment closest to the MPBR of each cartridge and load. However, these rifles require handloading to realize full potential. Anyone have a similar gun already in 33 Nosler? 250 gr. Downrange performance can be summarized with two statistics: maximum point blank range (MPBR) and retained energy at that range. Hmmmm, Nosler bullets and Nosler winner.just saying. One point for every 10 yards MPBR beyond 200 yards and one point deducted for every 10 yards less. The latter two have become popular and have proven extremely effective for large game such as moose, Alaskan brown bears, etc. Finished rifles will be around 0.75 inch shorter in the action, and barrels can be a short 22 inches and still provide full propellant burn. MPBR for a 10 inch kill box illustrates the concept. AccuBond Long Range bullet at 3,000 fps with over 4,000 ft.-lbs. Across the four bullet weights for each cartridge, the retained energy at MPBR averages are 2557 ft. lbs. It features a 30mm main tube and 6x optical zoom. When set on 2x, this makes a great scope for brush or timber hunting, as it offers a wide field of view. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. The .26 and .28 Noslers share the same case dimensions except for the neck being sized to accept respective bullet diameters, but the .30 Nosler case has the shoulder datum moved back to a shorter dimension. Using preproduction ammunition, muzzle velocity averaged 3,099 fps from the 26-inch barrel of the Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!? Here is the last set of bullet points, I promise. 300_whisper. .330 Dakota (Barnes Reloading Manual #3) 204. The .338 Win. Thanks for the info. The guide thanked me for doing the spotting, then stated, And that is why we use .338s in Alaska. All rights reserved. Subscriber Services. You might take a look at the 330 Dakota, great round that has been around for several years and very manageable to shoot. while functioning through standard length actions easily and reliably. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Mag. Mag. It is purely a big-game hunting cartridge that utilizes .338-inch bullets. 0000057076 00000 n Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. As yet, no one offers a 250 grain AccuBond in factory ammo for the 33 Nosler, and it would have scored closer to the .338 RUM with a 250. Factory .33 Nosler ammunition loaded with 225-grain AccuBond bullets measures 3.324 inches, which allows it to function in standard .30-06 length actions. (.330 Dakota), 35.4 f.p.s. Thats not to say that the .300 Win. 0000005294 00000 n The trajectory of the 250 grain A-Frame bullet at a MV of 2900 fps should look like this: +2.6" at 100 yards, +2.9" at 150 yards, +2.0" at 200 yards, -0.4" at 250 yards, and -4.3" at 300 yards. The AccuBond is a good all-around hunting bullet with high ballistic coefficients (BC) and terminal performance similar to the time-tested Nosler Partition. Have a black bear tag this fall was thinking on using this gun.several years ago I shot a deer with a 264 mag with the old Barnes bullets and I just as well been shooting full metal jackets. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. Effective range in this test is the minimum impact energy recommended for a humane kill on medium game (1200 ft-lbs.) The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. Mag. Using 185, 200, 225, and 250 grain bullet weights for reference, the 330 Dakota will drive these bullets 50-100 f.p.s. As yet, no one offers a 250 grain AccuBond in factory ammo for the 33 Nosler, and it would have scored closer to the .338 RUM with a 250. 0000016651 00000 n It is, and the ready availability of a vast spectrum of various loads and rifles makes gives it outstanding versatility. A Leupold VX-6 2-12x 42mm CDS-ZL variable scope was installed. Answer: As the article said, I chose the heaviest Nosler AccuBond bullet available in factory ammunition.
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